01. Introduction & Interaction 1

Welcome to track number. One of the bag of seeds. Holy Father, we thank you for your blessing today. Thank you for the kindness you've shown us to bring us together to receive your Holy Word. Lord, we ask that you guide us and lead us into all truth. We thank you in the name of Jesus Lead us, Holy Spirit, into all that is your will for us. Thank you for victory over darkness and over the devil in Jesus name, Amen. All right, all right, all right, all right. Psalm 126. When the Lord brought back the captive ones of Zion, we were like those who dream. Then our mouth was filled with laughter, and our tongue with joyful shouting. And then they said, Among the nations, the Lord has done great things for them. We are glad. Restore our captivity, Oh Lord, as the streams in the South. Those who sow in tears shall reap with joyful shouting. He who goes to and fro weeping and carrying his bag of seed, shall indeed come again with a shout of joy, bringing his sheeps with him. Amen. Hallelujah. I want to read verse 6 again because it is the basis of the theme of our short camp. He who goes to and fro weeping and carrying his bag of seeds shall indeed come again with a shout of joy, bringing his sheeps with him. Amen. I think that's the theme, isn't it? Bag of seeds. This Bible is telling us, American version, that whosoever goes to and fro, crying, suffering, carrying the bag of seeds, we'll come back definitely with a shout of joy. Amen. Bringing his, his sheeps with him. The Bible is telling us that anyone who travels up and down to and from means travelling. You get it with a bag of seeds. Throwing the seeds all around, definitely the same person will come back with a shout of joy, isn't it? Rejoicing, Hallelujah. Is that not the case? So I believe that this scripture has been fulfilled in many, on many occasions as we have gone around the world trying to plant seeds, you know, So I believe that is a blessing. And so we do not want to stop this practice of going to and fro planting seeds. Amen. What do you think? Is it a good idea? Now, there are three things that you see over there. The first one is that you have to go to and fro. You see, sometimes you have much more seed that can be planted and can be planted in one place. Are you with me? So that is how come sometimes it looks as though you haven't yet got the fullest harvest from one place, but you still have to travel to land, plants the seeds elsewhere. Because the way it is you, you can't stand. You can't stand just around where you are and just be throwing the seeds. If I was standing in Colegono, just throwing seeds into the people in Colegono for all these years, I'll be very sad. Do you understand? By today I should be a sad man, but I'm not so sad because I've got to other places. Sowing seeds. There is a saturation point when it comes to sowing of seeds. You can just throw a towel, a whole bag of seeds. You can have a whole sack full of seeds. You get it. But you'll find out that although you have a sack full of seeds, there's nowhere to sow those seats right in front of where you are. Is that not true? So that is where the situation is created, where you need to, you need to go to and fro up here, down here, to the left, to the right, up down here, a bit there, a bit here a bit. That's why we are not just planning, not just planning churches in Ghana. If I was to plant churches only in Ghana, I wouldn't, I cannot come back with shouts of joy and with rejoicing. Amen. What do you think? I've gone around trying to plant seeds in different places, Amen. So that is sometimes when you see us trying to go to certain places, you feel that we are ambitious or we want to just rule the world, build an empire. We have bad thoughts about us. But I don't want you to have any more bad thoughts from today because we are trying to go to and fro, planting the seeds all over the place. If you just stay in one place to plant your seed, you'll be very, very, very sad. Amen. There's no space anymore for the seeds. So the real work of God always comes to a point where you need to travel juicy and the travelling is the going to and fro. OK, you need to move around. The real work of God involves travelling. Anybody who is serious about the work of God, you will start travelling at a .1 of the things people don't realize is that full time ministry. The the 1 cardinal thing about working for God full time is the need to travel. You see, when I, when I first became a full time, I was not sure whether I was doing the right thing. Because when I go to the office that I built, a small office at my father's chambers, I, I was thinking, you know, by the evening that I could have just gone up the road to work at the hospital. And then I could have come there because there was, there was nothing to do there. We didn't have any even papers. We didn't have anything. No one came to see us. There was nothing. We just sat there. Do you understand? That's what it's like at the very beginning. But one day I had to go to Geneva to go and start a church there. And that was one of the first time I finished school in 1989. I finished housemanship in 1990, first of April and then 19. What did I say? 1919 and from 19 to the end of 1990. So from 1991 I became full time. I said that my work is now the church ministry. 1st of January 1991. So the first time we started a church was in 1992. So when I first had to travel, then I realized that I could not keep the job at the hospital. Do you get it? Because I needed to be aware. And I went to Geneva for three months. I stayed there for three months to start the church, and I was always in and out of Geneva. Those who are there now may not know. Yeah, I may not know I even had a license. I went and had a driving license. Yeah, that's the only foreign driving license I've ever had because I was living there and the Army invited me to come to the join the Army because I was a Swiss citizen and I had to be there. So now that now that I'm there and they invited me to come to the army, all kinds of things so that the church will be there. That is why when you start, that is not when you start. People start to do certain things. You look at them and you say you don't know. It's not that a father may just raise his eyebrows and see that your life will just the years will get finished. It's true, because you don't really know what somebody did before you are there. But all those things I could not keep down my job at the hospital. Do you see? So what I'm trying to explain to you is that you will need to travel to work for God. Working for God involves travelling because the bag of seeds, the saturation around you is very fast. Yeah, it's very quickly saturated, you see, you see. But people don't understand. If you read the book that I wrote called Tell them there is a part about the missionaries who are coming to West Africa from Switzerland. And there were people who were suggesting or saying why should we bother to go to West Africa when there are sickness and very bad people in Switzerland and in Germany, because some of them were also from Germany. You know that that that is a question asked by somebody who doesn't understand the principle of the fact that ministry is carrying a bag of seeds and sowing it, going to and fro and sowing the seeds. That's what ministry is all about. You can't carry your bag of seeds and sow them in one place. Amen. It will not work. Are you listening? Yeah. And if you take Lighthouse Chapel, if I just stayed in Cologonal, I said, oh, God has called me to Colibu, and I call my church Colibu Christian Center. And I just stayed around there sowing seeds and sowing seeds and sowing seeds. It's a completely different church. And it's not as though everybody was saved by the time we moved out of Calibuto, where I started church in Geneva, the very first church we ever started, the first branch of Lighthouse is Geneva. It's 18 years old. It can vote. When you're 18, you can vote, isn't it? You can marry, isn't it? You can, yeah. You can leave home, too. So, you know, if we have stayed there, we wouldn't have a certain amount of fruit. So there's a certain joy that I have because I travel around the place to plant seeds. Amen. And there's a certain joy that we have here. Before we came, I was showing some people the pictures of our camp in Kenya, you know, and I told them when they were inviting me for a camp, I said that I, I don't see why I should come for a camp in Kenya when I will not see any animals there. If I will not see an animal, I will not come there. Yes, because in the home of animals. So they they took us to the place where the animals. I said OK and we went for the camp and we had a good time. And that sort of joy comes because instead of staying here in London to continue to pour more seeds here into London, Pastor Richard sent away OB who himself is a seed. You see, to go to Kenya, to go and plant seeds there. And when you are there, you see all these Kenyans and Tanzanians and Ukandans, all kinds of people also being grateful. You can, you can understand the principle in the Bible that the one who carries his bag of seeds to and fro, you know, sowing the seeds, he is the one who's going to have some joy. Yeah, you are going to have some. There's a joy. I I benefit from the seeds that we've been planting to and fro. I benefit from it. I benefit you. You have some joy that you will not have if you didn't go around planting seeds. Juicy. And so there is something that God has begun with us, and that is we've been planting seeds in a particular field of the world, and that field is the field of the poor black man. The poor black man can be found in Africa and the poor black man can be found in the Caribbean, and the four black man can be found in the immigrant communities in Europe and America. You get it. This, this is the field that God has given us. And so we've been planting seeds in the four black man zone of the world. But because the seeds, the different types of seeds, sometimes the seed is a human being, sometimes is the word. But we haven't finished planting the seeds that we need to plant in the poor black man PBM zone which God has given to us. You cannot do more than what God has given to you. You understand? God may increase. I have a feeling that God wants to give us a new zone. Yeah, in Asia, in Latin America, and so on. But you see, we need to finish what we started. And we really, really need to finish, finish up hard so that we can move on to the next zone if the Lord will allow us. Now, have you heard of the samurai, the 46 principles of the Samurai Warrior One of the principles of the samurai warrior is what they call the foundation of death. You must always keep death in your mind. Always. It it teaches that if you keep death in your mind, you will always be wise. You will say goodbye to everybody politely and you will love the people that are around you very carefully every day because it's in your mind that this may be the last time you are seeing, seeing the person. You are aware you may never see the person again. When you keep in your mind that you will die and you could die at any time. You even eat the right food because you know that this thing, it can kill me and I eat a lot of it. I can easily die from it. It helps you to try not to destroy what you are building and to lay a good foundation so that you can really do what you're supposed to do. It also help you to work faster and you try to do the best. Because what I think of, if I was to be dead, there are so many things that I would want to do because I know how difficult they are and I know that if I'm gone, I don't know if it will be done. This is what I know. So this samurai principles, they are actually very biblical. I mean, this particular one, because I remember years ago I told somebody exactly the same thing. I told him always think about death. I think that you may die and you'll be a wise man. And he said that those who rather think about death rather live long because they think about death. Yeah. Your life is always why you always think that I could die. That is true. Africa Airways coming from South Africa, if I arrive, how many times have we landed in a plane and you say to yourself have arrived, then the next moment is an explosion, you are dead, you know. So when you think in that way, you find out that you can do many, many things wisely and properly. So what if I think about death? I would like to finish sowing the seeds that I started sowing in what I call the PBM zone, which is the poor black man zone. What do you think? I would like to finish it because I don't, I don't have to think I will stay for a long time. I don't know how long I'm going to be alive. I don't know how long you are going to be alive. But when you think about that, it helps you to finish up what you started. That's why I wrote that book on tithing so quickly, because I had a vision last year August, and the Lord told me write a book on tithing and I decided to write it and I was working on it all the time with my second classes. We have to finish this book. We have to finish it. There's another book that the Lord told me to write. I've finished writing, but I have not published it. But you see you, you don't know when you you are going to go away. So. But when you think of it in that way, you try hard, so hard in a different way to try to do what you are supposed to do, knowing that you may not be 7070 years at all. Yeah. You don't even know how old you will be. So brothers and sisters, God wants us to finish the work. So we have Burundi. We don't, we don't have any missionary there. We have a Guinea. We started, but we stopped Senegal. We started, but we stopped Congo Brazzaville, we started and we stopped. Central Africa. We started we as we are still there, but we need a mature person with ossified centers to go there. We need a missionary in where? Madagascar, Mauritius, now all of them are speaking French and all these places, they are very neglected spiritually. And then how many is that? Niger, Chad, Where is Djibouti? Is it? Is it Chad? You have your word map? No, Djibouti is Eritrea. Oh really? And which? Which? Which town is in Chad? What's the capital of Chad? In Jamina? OK yeah I just met 2 Ghanians. One said he works our way in Jamina, 1 was in Jamina and Djibouti also. Was it in Germany? Yeah. You look at them and you realize that they are able to work anywhere away from their families all the time, all the time because they work for the UN are Christians, because we are so earthly minded, we cannot do much for God. That is why when I saw that book, you see it's a secular book, but I just open it and it looks at the principles of a samurai warrior, the first principle of death. So you are reading Dead the Foundation. So I just started blasting. So keep death in your mind always. It will make you do this, It will keep you doing this. I said wow, this is wisdom, which is what I believe. So now we talk about death. I think you are afraid you are going to die, but see rather that Father will keep you alive. If, if we think in that way, we will not stop praising ourselves today. Praising ourselves for what? What have we accomplished with our few people in our few churches? We are clapping for ourselves too early. We'll have the whole of eternity to consider and analyze all that we've done, and by then we cannot come back and change anything. So this is the all or none time. We got to go for it now. And when you think of if I think of, if I think of my death, how far too much I want to do, I have, I tell you, there are some things that I need to write. There are some places that I need to go. There are some churches I need to start. There are some buildings I need to finish. You get it. And what about you? You think about your death, you can't even imagine it. When I went to South Africa recently, one of the pastors, associate pastors of the church that I was visiting, his wife died. She was 38 years old. She died just before we got there. So her funeral was now became the convention that I was preaching in. In fact, I was supposed to preach in the morning. Then the afternoon was the funeral. So I told the pastor that, look, let's just do the funeral, forget about the morning. He said, OK. And as I look at the people kissing, you know, in their culture there, they kiss the dead. Everybody coming to kiss her. Beautiful lady, 38 you never think and my people were saying every time we go there, this lady takes us out, she takes us shopping, she does this, she does that. I say, wow, you, you never know that you'll be the one. And the pastor said he said, no, none of us know which of us was going to be the next person only to leave South Africa and have a call that a very Macaulay has almost also in a very critical condition. You don't know. It's just you know. So I tell you, when you think about it, you rather say, hey, man, Bishop, where did you say you were you were going to send us to? Can we can we get to the job, please? We've had a lot of teachers. Yeah. But you see, this is the first time that the zone which God has called us to has become a bit clear. Yeah, Is the poor black man zoned, the poor black man? PBN, It's true. And some of the places which we started churches now we stopped, like Niger, Congo Brazzaville, they are very poor. You see, you need a certain caliber of missionary to survive there because the people don't have money. Do you see? Yes, people don't have money. And you see, you can see how much money people have by the offerings that they take. When I talk about a poor black man, look, I've been in different countries. I mean, once I was in, I was a friend of mine told me Ranad Bonke came to his church one Sunday after they took their normal title offering. Then they took an offering for him and they had the church. The church will not be the church will be as big as let's say the Apache church, one of the services, something like that. You know, in, in the UK. When he finished, he took her $150,000 offering and then one of the members also gave 1,000,000. So he said, he told me Bonky left there with $1.15 million just once Sunday just preached once and left 1.15 million U.S. dollars in can't for his crusade. But you know, with us when we talk about the poor black man, it'll take us a long time of so many. Sometimes I go around different churches. I remember one time different, different. I went Massachusetts, Minnesota, Canada. You take a look. 2000 thousand, 6005, 2005. When you add off several, yeah, several places and several flights, it's very little, 15,012 thousand. I'm telling you, this is my work. It's not your work. You don't know. I know the figures I work with. If I don't know the figure or not, it it has to. I I need to know the figures to know what I'm doing. We are one of the poorest, difficult to work with groups in terms of money, not difficult in character, but difficult to less is difficult to be in Niger. Niger is the poorest country in the world. It's all Haiti. Either Haiti or Niger, the poorest in Africa. Out of you can do a church everywhere there are people in the church and they keep offering. It doesn't amount to much. That's the fact. That's true. So you see people criticizing us. So we are collecting money. But there is what we have been able to do is because we take money from here, we use it for here, we take money from here, we use it for. That's how can we are being able to build churches in the forest, poorest, poorest places. Right now, as I'm speaking, we are building actively. I would like to finish building before I die. 10 to Psalm 130. Look, I'm in a lot of pins. I tell you Psalm 132, I'm going to show you a very nice sculpture. You're going to be very happy with it, man, and I hope you apply it to yourself, OK? He says, remember, O Lord, on David's behalf, all his affliction, and how he swore to the Lord and vowed to the mighty one of Jacob, huh. He's praying, remember David, isn't it? And how he vowed to the Mighty One of Jacob. Surely I will not enter my house, nor lie on my bed. I will not give sleep to my eyes or slumber to my eyelids until I find a place for the Lord, a dwelling place for the Mighty One of Jacob. Amen. Behold, we heard of it in Ephrata. We found it in the field of JA. Let us go into His dwelling place and let us worship at His footstool. Amen, let us worship at His footstool. Arise, O Lord, to your resting place, you and the ark of your strength. Let your priest be clothed with righteousness, and let your godly one sing for joy for the sake of David, your servant. Amen. Do not turn away the face of your anointed. The Lord has sworn to David a truth from which he will not turn back. Of the fruit of your body. I will set up your throne if your sons will keep my covenant and my testimony, which I will teach them. Their sons shall sit upon your throne forever. For the Lord has chosen Zion. He has desired it for his habitation. This is my resting place forever. Here I will dwell, for I have desired it. I will abundantly bless her provision. I will satisfy her needy with bread. Amen. Her priests also I will clothe with salvation, and her godly ones will sing aloud for joy. There I will cause the horn of David to spring forth. I have prepared a lamp for my anointed. His enemies I will close with shame. But upon himself his crown shall shine. Amen. But notice, I'm sure you don't understand it, but he says, Remember on David's behalf all his affliction, and how he swore to the Lord and vowed to the mighty one of Jacob. Surely I will not enter my house nor lie on my bed. I will not give sleep to my eyes or slumber to my eyelids until I find a place for the Lord, a dwelling place for the mighty one of Jacob. Hallelujah. See why David is a man after God's own heart? Because he swore, he said I will not sleep, I will not rest until I've found a place, until I can build a house for the Lord. You know what, what a kind of character is. This, I believe is the most important character to have. And somebody who says I will not rest until I have been able to build a house for God. Amen. You know, when I read this one, I immediately called. Some of our project was had stopped high cost immediately whilst I was having my quiet time. I called there. Can you make sure you pay for this quickly? Some, some, some, some churches. That's where the project had stopped because of no money. I decided to just try and force them do it. Yeah, because I saw and I said that God, God, God would never forget somebody who's tried to build a church for him, tried to build a house for God. Hey, you will never be forgotten. You will never be forgotten. And you see that, David? You know, sometimes the sons are so different. Solomon was great. He was wise and everything, but David was totally different. How many you prefer to be David or Solomon? Which one would you prefer to be? David, isn't it? Why? Because Solomon 2 was great. But why do you prefer to be David now? Apart from the Father, God like him, but what? It's a little. It was a little. It was different. Yeah. You can see somebody who loves God as against somebody who's achieving great things, isn't it? Yeah. Two different things. Is it cold here? I don't know why they are trying to cool us out. It's giving us. You like it? OK, Do you know what? Who's the coffee maker here? OK, make me some coffee. I hear it has. It helps, you know. So I want you to be. I want you to swear to the Lord and vow to the mighty one of Jacob. Surely I will not enter my house now. Lie on my bed and I will not give sleep to my eyes or slam back to my eyes until I find a place for the Lord, a dwelling place for the Mighty One of Jacob. What? What a scripture. I will not rest at all, and I also don't want to rest until I find a place in Burundi for the Lord. Hallelujah, until I can build a house for the Lord in Congo Brazzaville, I don't want to look you. If any of you had the pain, the pain that I'm in, you will not. You cannot even stand. I'm telling you, you cannot even stand. You don't have an idea. You cannot even stand. But you see, I cannot rest because this camp, if there's a reason for the camp, I'm not trying to come and give it. All the messages are in the books. I'm here. I'm here to get people. I need people. Yeah. To send, to go and build for the House of the Lord. I'm telling you. Ah, I know I'm a leader. I know there are some things. So I keeping death in front of my eyes always. I've been. If you've been with me for some years, you know, you can hear it around me all the time. I'm always thinking about death. It has. It is what has actually kept. So that's why I was attracted to that book, because I realized it was the same idea. Yeah. It makes you think in a certain way. That's why you when you see some people, you decide you will even quarrel with them. So in case you die or I die, go your way. I also go my way. You know, if we hadn't gone forth with our seats, there would be no church in Trinidad. Every person, Richard was in Trinidad. Well, you're not happy to see the church in Tuesday night, see the people there, about 70 people full. We've got our own church building there. Those who say we don't know what we are doing with the money. Fully air conditioned church, Trinidad, Jamaica. We have our own church there, churches working Guyana with branches. Over 200 people in Guyana who are mentioning my name as if they've seen me before the way that we mentioned. Can I take it as if he was born in Kolimu? Is it not amazing St. Lucia? But I remember similar camp like this carriage and say look you go and that's why the Bible says that he that go to and fro carrying his bag of seeds surely returned surely shouts of joy. When I arrived in Kenya and Nairobi, I was taken to one of the Porsches hotels. When I entered the hotel, I was greeted by my own church member, Kenyan church member Wednesday. Oh, when we were taken to the hotel in where the animals are, our church members were there. Kenyan zoo. Yeah. So I was at the camp. They said they are making a bonfire for you. I said, what is that? So there's a special fire bonfire. The management are doing all these special things. The people who come to that hotel, Richard Branson and all this bench in Atlantic decided they have taken their pictures all day. They told us that the fire will keep away the resident leopard. There is a resident, a resident Python that comes to drink water in the kitchen. Church members. It was just a joy to see that these are people. The car, I'll show you, those of you who are interested, the car that was taking us through the jungle to go and see the animals. The man was explaining when you see this bed, he said this is the Ugandan national bed. When you see this and he said that they have gone hunt. They go hunting the night. That's why you can only see them at 6:00 AM when they are coming back 6:00 AM to 8:00. After that they are hiding. They were showing us a different animals. And then Pastor Prince explained to me that the man who is driving the car is also a church member and he was a church member. On Sunday when I was doing the sword cutting to build a Nairobi cathedral, I saw him there, same guy who was driving, the guy explaining all the animals to us. So our church member, including those who are making the bonfire. Oh yeah. These are my shouts of joy. I have no greater joy. I have no greater joy than to see that my children walking through. I have no greater joy. Yes, I have no greater joy than to see that my children walking through. It's fantastic, you know. So brothers and sisters, I see no reason why I should retire when it's not yet my retirement age. I have to continue to go around. Even though when you are carrying the bag of seeds, the Bible says weeping, weeping. There's a lot of weeping that has to do with carrying bag of seeds all over the place. Because first of all, the person that you are sending, you know that you are just about to destroy the person's life permanently. When I say destroy, the Bible says that he that will lose his life will gain it. Paul said that I am crucified with Christ. When you say I'm crucified, it means that I am crucified is that something is dead. Then he said the life I now live, I live by the faith of the Son of God who gave himself for me. So you will now live a new life which is different from the original life you would have LED. Do you see you live a different life from the original life you would have led? You get it? So there's I am, I am crucified. Then he explained that the life I now live, so I'm now living a different life. And the crowd said it's a good life and it's a sweet life and I love living this kind of life. Amen. Are you still around? You will go weeping, weeping, hey, just to leave. What you are familiar with will always make you weep. Amen. It will always make you weep when you leave something you are used to. To send somebody is always a painful experience. People think that I don't have any feelings when I'm sending somebody. But if you know me, you'll know that I have a very soft heart. Thank you, my dear Amen. You will know that I have a soft heart. Bishop Saki was telling me. But you were saying that I will cry. When I was worried that he was going to cry during his wife's funeral, he was telling by you, are you not the one who said? But when the funeral came, you are the one who was crying. I was the one who was. But you'll be surprised how difficult it is. But to be a good soldier, you need to harden your forehead and do certain things. Amen. All the people that I used to come and meet in London, I don't come and meet them here anymore. Well, I've sent them all away weeping. It's true, It's true. All the people I used to come in. But doubtless I come rejoicing. Amen. Are you listening? Are you there? In fact, actually, when I was in Kenya, I thought I was in London. It's powerful. It's you go weeping because you are going to lose something. Those who want to to have things don't want to lose. There is nothing like that in the church. You get it? You will lose something. That's why Jerry's still here. That's why Jerry's still here, because for him to go, he has to lose something. But it's nice to have him around. When I was coming, his only person I asked was, is Jerry going to be there? I need Jerry. I'm used to him. If he's not around it will not be normal, so I can't imagine him going away from here, so I'm glad that he has not been able to lose. I'll be very sad when he decides to. Are you there? Yeah. So weeping that that that you see, there will be pain. But what I want you to know about this life is that whether you intend to cry or not, you will cry in this life. You will cry in this world. Or you haven't cried yet. Haven't you cried already? You haven't been anywhere. But you are. You are crying. Is that not how the world is? There is pain, there is suffering in this world, whether you choose it or not. I'm going to, you're going to have, I mean, have you ever wondered that tears come from your tear glands or whatever? God made the place for crying is better. I mean a crime department, sadness department, sorrow department, it's actually been created as a whole place. The only thing that is useful for sadness, God made it so. I mean, whether you go anywhere, you do this, you do whatever tears dear, you cry in this world. Otherwise you are breaking the scripture. Your coffee is not nice at all. It's very, very bad. Bad coffee before you have to when Second World War try again. I pray for her that Lord grant her grace. Improve. Improve everything. Improve. Gloria. I'll go and help her. Perhaps you can. Are you there? Amen. Weeping. I didn't create that vest. The the vest was there. We all just reading it. He that goes to and fro carrying his bag of seeds, weeping, Surely he will come back rejoicing and that rejoicing will be either on earth or in heaven. But there is the concept that there will be a bag of seeds that will be travelling, there will be crying. These are the three constants, Yeah. There will be the bag of seeds, there will be the crying and there will be the travelling, Amen. This is constant. And then is followed by rejoicing. And that rejoicing cannot come about unless they're travelling with the bag of seeds and crying comes about. You cannot. Amen. Are you listening? Yeah. And so everybody here, I I I believe that all of you here, unless you are special visitors like Pastor Jerry, are all going to be carrying your bag of seeds. Is it Nana Kwame at the back or Nana Yao? You are another survivor. But you see what I like about it. The guy, they never stop coming to these camps. They are not afraid, you understand? They keep coming. It's a good attitude because I remember one guy, he said he was a student. He said that that thing, I don't listen to it. What is that thing? Says the Maca name. If I listen to it, you spoil my career. I cannot do my career. If I listen to that thing, I cannot work again, so I don't listen to it. So at least coming around. And that's the difference between Judas and Peter. Judas just decided not to come back, but Peter, I'm coming back. Well, both Peter and Judas denied Christ terribly. You know that. Pray hard that God will grant you. Do you have some tissue to wipe the top here? All right. Are you there? So traveling? Amen. Bag of seeds, weeping. These three go together. We cannot. There is nothing your father or your mother can do to prevent you from going through certain things. How many? I've seen pornography before. Raise your hand. I'll know. Open my eyes. Raise your hand. Was it shown to you by your mother? Do you think your mother did not want you to see that? And your father? But how many saw it anyway? Raise your hand. Yeah. Do you see how it is? So your father loves you so much he doesn't even want you to go through certain things, but you still have to go through it, huh? You get it. So your parent may not want you to suffer, go through this, go through that, whatever. But you're going to go through anyway. You will see. You'll be tested, you'll cry, you'll do whatever. But you have to. You have to do well. Amen. Now, the seed. Let me talk a little bit about the seeds, but I'm just giving an introduction. I have points. I'll give you points before you go. Yeah, but I just want to talk to you. There are different types of seeds. I'm talking about people seeds. These are people seeds that are what we call people. See, the person is the seed. Now, some seeds don't grow in some places. Your coffee is nice, but it's not hot. But I'll take it like that. It's up to it's better all right. Some seeds they don't grow. Let's say if you take up. I planted a mango seed in my house some years ago. One day I decided it grew and grew and grew and I was always waiting to see when it will grow taller than me. After 8 years, it was around my height. So I felt that no, there's something wrong with the either the seed or the ground. Somehow it wasn't working. So I said no go. That was the end of the mango tree. There are some seeds that just don't grow in certain places. So I don't know what type of seed you are. Sometimes you are too old, you are an old seed. And so you, when we plant you, you, you give us problems. You see, sometimes you need an old seed like this. I have a country that I need an older person to send because a younger person, the reason is that the church has been there. And then we need an older person. But there's some places that old an old seed will not work. Sometimes the old seed cannot lend a language. Do you know that when a woman is born a baby baby girl, all the eggs you ever release at ovulation are in you? Do you know that? Yeah, all When you see a baby girl five years old in her ovary, all the eggs are there are like they are arranged on shelves. Yeah, she never makes new seeds. That is why from 35, from the age of 35 upwards, you are more likely to give birth to an abnormal person because the eggs have been on the shelf for 35 good years. So some of them, it has just it like this. Some of them have just gone different. Yeah. Doctors. What I'm saying? True or not true, Yeah, Yeah. That is why the younger you are, if you're thinking of having a child, the younger you are, the better. Because the, the eggs have been, it's just like fried egg. Sometimes you want to fry. You realize that the thing has turned into a chicken before. When you when you fry the thing, you see that it is, it is changing messy. So you realize that the, the the egg has been there for too long, isn't it? Yeah. And and that is how it is when we are sending people. Sometimes you realize that the person, the person has been there for too long before we ascending and there are some aberrations that are taking place in the person. The age, you know, maybe the person has got children, has got a I'll natured wife or her marriage, which has gone beyond the eagerness stage. Yeah, the eagerness stage is where everybody's eager to learn the duties of the husband and the duties of a wife. This is how to have sex. This is what to do. This is how to be a Good Wife. This is how to cook. How to. They're eager. We just said they are not interested in this foolish man. Why should I? They are not eager anymore. So you find out that need a flowing wife. When you have a missionary who doesn't have a flowing wife who because the wife is the main you see she adds or subtracts. You see everybody who is being sent has a problem and their fault. Sometimes you have some deficiency. The way you are, the way you pre, the way you lead, you get it. Then you have a wife who is flowing. So she will, she will, she will bring one point. She also has her bad side. Do you also have your bad side and then your good side? So 1 + 1. You have two, SO 2 + 2 -, 2, then you are at least you are surviving, but now you have one point and then you have one negative and then she's two negative in addition. So three negative are pulling down. You've got a message and and all of us are more eager when we are younger. Is it not true? Yeah, all of us are more eager when we are younger. We are less susceptible to. I would never have had this problem at a younger age from sleeping on a bed. That's the only thing I've done to sleep on the wrong bed. I can never at a young age. It's only at a certain age that certain things can worry me. It's true, but you don't know until it happens to you. Are you listening? Yeah. So you see that the seed has changed because it has been on the shelf for too long. And you see that the product that it is producing is different. So to be young and to be a seed is the best. Yeah. As soon as you are getting older, I realize that there are things that are more difficult to do. So that's why when you are doing something, you have to do it quickly. And that's why it is good to think of death even as a young person. The first time I buried a pastor, I was 27 years old. The first pastor I ever buried was 27 years old. First pastor I ever buried was 27 years old. And this year I buried a pastor 26 years old, 26, and he never thought he would die. I also never thought, in fact, the day before he had a log with him for three hours. Four hours is one of our Jews about his church discussing what he was going to do the next week and the next, the coming year. Long discuss. He, his wife, and then the general Superintendent were discussing the whole in the general superintendent's house the whole day they were talking. In fact, when I went for his funeral, the pastor showed me this where he was sitting. We start there and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk about what we are going to do next year. But you know that I was going to die the next day. That's why I say that. Keep it in your mind all the time. It will you, you, you wouldn't even want you, wouldn't you, you, you wouldn't even want to wait for a few a few days. So I, I need to get it done. You wouldn't even want to. I remember when I was writing this book on tithing, I had that vision. It was August last year. I was working all the time. It's a very important book to really help the church and that pastors who are serious, you, you, you. You'll be surprised if you teach tithing in your churches. Your church will be very, very stable because people are also committed to what they give their money, and it's a blessing for the members. Your members will be prosperous. You'll be blessed. So brothers and sisters, if you are a young seed, yes, you suffer from immaturity and you suffer from inexperience and sometimes you suffer from lack of knowledge, but by and large, it's better to become a father or a mother when you are young because that's actually what God intends. So if there's something you want to do, do it now. I became a pastor. I was 25 years old. I was not 40. Today is my 21st marriage anniversary. I was married 21 years ago today. Yeah, today, 21 years. So yesterday was was the day before, but it was a few hours. I went with my wife to for a little dinner, just the two of us in Singapore, and I prayed. I said thank you for keeping us, helping us. 21 years we have been married together. Amen. But I was a pastor when I my my church was Lighthouse. And the people who officiated my wedding, Bishop Saki and Bishop Eddie. Pastors I didn't have, I didn't know any other pastor. It was a rainy day. Yeah. You, what you are doing, you just get on, get on with it, get on with it. I had no time to be joining churches. I was starting a church working. So you see if today I, I can I, I, I benefit from something you, you have been doing something else for 1000 years. You are now coming to be in the ministry and you you want to benefit. What are benefiting You see, you can have a problem there. Don't you think so? Yeah. What do you think? Yeah, that's as I say. Get on with what you want to do. Get on with it. My children are taller than my wife. Now she's left with one. Get on. You want to have a child? Get on and have it. Want to marry? Get on with it. What are you waiting for? All your eggs on the shelf and they are they are they are they don't they every period, every time you have your monthly period 1 egg is released. OK, so count the number of periods you have from the age of whatever you whenever you start 13121114 from that time every month times 12 * 10 years. So this is 10 years times 12 is 120 eggs go. That's all. And the rest are there on the shelves. They are waiting. So we just twist like that. It's coming. Then the next month then if you get married and you're not going to have said that, that twisted one will meet the spam and maybe abortions happen because the baby is abnormal. Most of the abortions that take place at 12 weeks are because the baby form is an abnormal child. So by 12 weeks and it comes by itself. One day I sent somebody to the mission field. He had five children. You see, those were the days that I didn't know so much about all these types of seeds. And he started to write letters and I realised at a point that no, I have sent an older seat that cannot stay. Do you understand? That's why I came all the way to you to try to talk to you. Please. This is the time to be sank as a seed young young boys and girls. One of my young pastors, he just finished university. He's he's 20 something years old. He told me Bishop people have been sowing seeds in my life. Young boy and his church is working with mature people who have teenagers as children, millionaires, not a million, but rich people. They are all in it this small. So I look at him and I say wow, he is one of the young seeds that makes me happy to see that a young person can really do well because I know all the grown-ups in his church. The grown-ups in his church are like, get 40, get into 50 rich people, different things. He came to me and he said pastor Bishop, he told me a few days ago, he said Bishop, somebody sold a seed of he mentioned a number of thousands of dollars in my life. He said, what should I do with it? He's a he's a child. He asked me, So what should I do with the money? I said, God bless you. I gave him advice. So what should I do with it? He said, let's just say, yeah, boy, I said, a young person can do wonderful things, I'm telling you, if only you will take the challenge and do it quickly. Yeah. So by the time you start deciding to obey, you realize that even the attitude of the person you've decided to marry has already changed. That's already changed completely from the original attitude that. And nobody. Nobody, nobody, nobody. There is nobody in this world who is not influenced by the person you marry. Nobody. You may say you are strong, but it affects you. It's true there is no, there's nothing like that in the world. But however the effect is, whether it's big or small, to the left or to the right, there's some effect, some are controlled less or more, but there's always an effect the person has on you. If you read the final quest, the couple that spoke to Rejoiner the The man said. The woman said he tried to live his life just to prove himself to me. If your wife accuses you, you will always try to prove to her that you are not what she says you are, one pastor said to me. What do you do when somebody has deceived you? Because his wife had deceived him to leave the mission field and he was paining him. Yeah, his bad fat man. I never realized what was happening before I realized I'm out. So for me, I tell you most of the things I've done in the ministry, I did them at a stage when I could do them. I'm telling you, you can do things when you are younger. That's the time that the seed can really germinate. I mean, if I'm sending you to to Niger, are you a big man living in the UK or living in Ghana and I'm sending you to Niger? What you don't realize is that in every country there are places for rich people. There are $1,000,000 homes in Uganda. If you don't know you, you are new. There's an International School in every single country for Americans and all the foreigners. There's always an International School of some type of American or International School. Everywhere where they charge $7000 a 10 is there. Name the country and you see that there is one there. By a certain point in your life, those will be the only schools that your children could go to. There's a certain point in your life you where you look. You see that based on who I am and where I am, my child must go to so and so International School. But you see when I started as a missionary to Ghana, my child did not need to go to any international. I heard some people argue that my child goes to American School, Lincoln School, or what? My child is the founder of a school. Somebody founded founded a school. You should go and see the school now. Big. But he was the first student in the school. When we used to go and pick him, he was the only one in the school. He's the only one in the school. Because I don't mind. I don't mind if my at the stage in my life of where I was, I didn't mind if my child is the only child in the school. I don't think about it. I don't need to go American school. This school that's no, I don't need any particular type of car. I had my Renault 4 my father gave me. I use it. I use it until I couldn't use it anymore. Then somebody sent me a second hand Toyota Corolla. Second hand Toyota Corolla. You will not see that type of car around anymore. That particular type A Gray 1, I don't know what what do you call it, but that's type of Toyota Corolla. Somebody sent it to me. My relative bought one for me and shipped it to me the second car that I have, because at that stage the seed can germinate in a poor country. But there is a stage, I mean, some of you Swiss guys here, if I send you Tunisia at the level at which you are now, you, you will be calling the mission the schools, there's European schools and what have you that your children have to go to. So you will be very expensive to send or through or not through. You don't understand the message. So you must rather help the young ones to go. You mustn't, you mustn't make comments to them. Are you sure of what you are doing juicy? You mustn't, No, no. But some of the pastors do that. You see that the concept. Be careful. This guy, you know his father, his father has a lot of money. So that is why he's doing all these things. You better be sure. Make sure you do your masters first and make sure they said that. One of my pastors was doing that. Somebody was working with me. She went and advised her that you should be careful. I look at that. You rather support the young ones. If you couldn't do something and somebody's going, why do you, I mean, frighten the person? You, you, yeah, must have the young ones to go and encourage and rather say that what Bishop is doing is is the best thing. My my father-in-law is 89 years old. You should see the respect which he accord. My father-in-law did not want me to marry my wife 21 years ago. He was opposing it. They didn't know what religion I was, what church I was. But here I was trying to work for the Lord, you know, but after some time and he got to know about the church. There's a kind of respect that he gives to me. I don't deserve that kind of respect. One of his birthdays, I think. What other? The 70th birthday or so, when I got to the house, we were having a party. He was sitting at the stage and he's, his wife is the vice president of the Methodist Church of the whole of Gandhi, the Methodist. They have the laypeople and full time the vice president of the church is a layperson in charge of the lay movement because the Methodist chair was founded on laypeople also. And then the president of the church is like the Bishop is a full time minister and then all their bishops are there. So they have always, every year or every two years they vote and they choose one person as a layperson, as a vice president. My mother-in-law, my wife's mother was voted the vice president of the Methodist Church. So they are very big in the Methodist Church. So when I went the high table, Methodist Bishop after Methodist Bishop, all of them sitting with him there, when I came with my casual dressing to the party as one of the children, because his children are there and grandchildren. So we are still going to sit at the back in the dark place. Dark should come. Dark should come and sit here. I should come and sit in my my bushel, bring me out of the shade out of the shadows, Come and sit here right by his side over there on the stage. Even recently he had a birthday 80 years and what always the he when he sees me when they look, I say you look like Jesus Christ and the kind of respect why he's a businessman. So that's I asked myself, why don't my lay pastors also give me that? Kind of like if I'm preaching something and you can see that I'm doing something or doing something, maybe you are not doing it. He's not doing it, but why don't you recognize that this is God's work? This is God working as if something is fighting with somebody. And he wanted to be a priest, but he was never able to become a priest. But the kind of response you realize that this is God's work, you know, just as, just as in the same way, I'm always trying to let people prosper. Because if you're a pastor and don't let your members or want your members to prosper, you are full of the highest category because it is only the prosperous members in your church who are going to support what you are doing. It is in your interest that they do well. So sometimes I ask myself, can't people realize that this is really the work? You'd rather be happy that your pastor is interested in Christianity and God, not changing into some other bank or banking institution or something. So my friends, I tell you, if you are young enough to understand what I'm saying, please be young enough to become one of the powerful young seeds because you can be a young man, all people will follow you. It's true, it's true. You don't have to be old for people to follow you. I've always been younger than everybody around me in the ministry. It is recently that last year I met a pastor who is 36 years old. He has a big church in Johannesburg and I didn't know his age then, he said to me. I asked him. So I asked, which era do I belong to? So you belong to the older old people? I said me. I said, Oh yeah, you are. I was shocked. Did the first time I met somebody who is now putting me in another older group because I've always been in the younger group. Is it not amazing? I realized that I'm also growing slowly for some people to be calling me that. I'm in the older era. The church I came from in Singapore too, the pastor is he's in his 40s. So I asked him, I was, I said, oh, you are my friend. I asked so, so I asked, so how do you say? He said, oh, you are my father. He said, I see you. I see you as a distant mentor, as one of my distant mentors. So you see that they are putting me on the older shelf of eggs. There are things even if I wanted to do that I can't do them now. That's why I'm encouraging you as a young person. You get it. This is the time. All these guys, Leslie, Kofi and some of you here, you didn't even respect them. You didn't even have, you didn't give two chances to them. John BofA, Aura and all these guys who are here, what are their names? Even David David in Jamaica, David David when he was on campus, they did not even make him an elder. He was not even made an elder. It was like, no, I mean no, enough confidence, as you say, to make him. I wonder who were even the elders in his time? I wonder who were the elders in his time and where they are. The chief elders with big names. All these guys, look at them. Doing well, huh? Preaching, working for the Lord. Is it not a powerful thing? So you, you are the seed. You thought the bag of seed was some other seed. But you not knowing that you are in the bag, you are the one in the bag. You are the one in the bag I'm talking to. You are the seed in the bag. Yeah. And we cannot be sowing those seeds. How many changes do you want us to have in London when there are places where they would thank you with their lives? Thank you for coming, thank you for sending. They always say thank you for sending this. Thank you for sending this person, thank you for sending this person. Amen. Are you there? So I want you to see yourself as the seed who is going somewhere to happen to manifest in the name of Jesus. Amen. I see a lot of ladies here. We have lady seats and mail seats. Well, me, I don't want to be the one to stand before God. And God will tell me that I sent some ladies. And you said that they were ladies so you couldn't send them. So now I want to send ladies. Oh yeah. Don't tell me in future that you don't have any husband. Oh, don't tell me in future that nobody married you because you are the pastor. Yeah, don't tell. So nobody's mad. Nobody. Nobody wants to marry me because I'm the pastor of the church. They are my church members. How can you propose to your pastor? How can you approach to the propose to the apostle, Apostle Marcella? It will be hard. That's why sometimes some fathers don't give certain things to their daughters. And then when you keep them certain cars, certain houses, certain things. If people are afraid to approach this big classy woman when you see her, you look at it like somebody when she Pupu's diamonds come out. Diamonds are forever otherwise not diamonds. Shelly, are you listening? So I want you to be powerful people seeds. Amen. And we've got to go around sharing those seeds. You know, I don't like to think of the number of people there are in the world. It actually makes me depressed. So let's just remember that there are about 11 countries. I need some survivors. Some of you must find jobs in Chad. Yeah, find a job in Chad and go there and be our seed. Some of you working in the UN, some of you guys from Switzerland. You can't get jobs in the UN, Chad, because the UN has job everywhere. Go there as missionaries, Sudan. But even if you don't go, I will send somebody there by the grace of God. Yeah, I will send you, I tell you. You see, there is no different percentage of joking what I'm saying. That is why I'm saying to you that if you think I'm joking, you are making a mistake. I remember when Irene and Daniel were working in Nottingham. Irene, we used to go to court when I have a camp. She said she's in court, she will make sure she's able to come. And one day I called, I said I'm changing your profession. And I told her that I, I was like I said, I'm going to send people to the desert and I sent them to, do you remember, I sent them to Mali, 45°C, the temperature when you move your hands here, the air is hot. We had a crusade in thermally. You see that the, the, the walls are hot. The water is hot. You don't, it's small and it will be hot, hot water, but it's warm. The walls are hot. The day and the night. It is fantastic. So brothers and sisters, God is going to use us. Who would like to go to Burundi? Oh, who would like to go to Congo Brazzaville? Nobody. Who would like to go to Senegal? Who would like to go to Equatorial New Guinea? Then what are you doing here? Where do you want to go to? Don't want to ask a question? Then you raise your hand. They are not sure, OK, whether they have to answer. Who would like to go to Equatorial Guinea, where they speak Spanish? Nanaya was raising. You see, an old seed cannot learn a new language easily. Can you speak Spanish? I need somebody who can speak Span. Who will learn how to speak Spanish. Charlene, you see, you are looking straight this way, instead of looking at me and your beloved. His name is what? Sammy, You want to go to the Caribbean, not to Equatorial Guinea. You want a posh place with sea, the sea, the sea you can see through the sea where people go for holidays. There's a game in your eyes, it's a World Cup. Who would like to go to Sudan? Sudan. Stand up. Let me see, my dear. You come from Sudan. See. Come here, my dear. Come, come. You see. She's a normal person just like you. What is it? You think Sudanese people in Sudan are not real people? I just look at a normal person. I didn't know there's any. I'm surprised to find that somebody here from Sudan, she also does her hair just like all of you made her hair like all of you. Where do you buy a dress from? Your friend made it for you. And then where do you buy the top from which shop you buy? You don't even know H Lamb H&M. And then where do you do your, your, your toes in the room? OK, You see now Sudanese is just a normal person. If you are going to be a good missionary, you must come to the place where you really believe that a human being is a human being normal just like you. No matter what you've heard about or read in the news, This place that this place, that, that place that it's just people. People need the Lord. Amen. People need the Lord. They're just ordinary people. But we are sitting in our world. But we have to go. Sometimes you don't even know. Sometimes the most unlikely seeds will be the the most joyful seeds. You never know. Maybe maybe our main reward is that we that we went to Sudan and that we haven't yet been we are we are we are having discussions that we are going to Caribbean. And maybe the main is like God has maybe God has decided that the one when they go to Sudan, I'll pour out a blessing that they will have for eternity and we are hedging around OK, Seneca, OK kidney. OK here, OK here. Accept the actual reward spot. Because you see, even me when I work with people, usually there's just one or two things that I want from them. I've learnt that every boss usually likes one or two things. It doesn't really need many things. That's what I have found out about myself. If you work for me, usually I don't care about most first. I don't care when people come to work or if you, whether they come, I don't care. Do you see even even how much you have to pay them? Even I don't really care. When the work is done, then I become impressed with it. So to me, certain things matter and certain things I don't even care. So you'll be surprised that we've got just one thing. Is waiting. Waiting. Just that one thing. What do you think? Is it powerful? Yeah. What is your name, my dear? Soraya Surya. Surya, it's supposed. To. Be Surya Surya, how did you come to England? This I was sent here to get the education. I wanted to do medicine and so I wanted to study. Well, my mom and my dad sent me here, but I believe it's more like a spiritual thing. I was a Muslim. I was born a Muslim and when I was 1314, I started thinking about life. It's like if I want to be bad, let me be a bad person. If I want to be good, let me try and be a good person. And I used to pray more than five times a day out fast and pray and pray to. But there's an emptiness in me. So I went to, I was in a Muslim school and then I said, well, I think there is no court because if there is a court, let him reveal himself to me. So in the boarding school we would have holidays. I went to a sporting school in Uganda, so we had holidays for three weeks. And then when I went to bed, I had a dream. The dream came three times and the dream is an ocean. And there's a man who would call people to follow him. And then he kept on saying, come to me is where I follow me, follow me. But I knew that if I went to him, I would die. Then I said, I don't want to die. Then I wake up and say, like, do I like Salah? What I'll pray you say through a do I three times and then every time you have a bad dream and then you go back. I had the dream three times. But in the dream every time I'll try to get closer to the man, a voice would say, if you call in the name of Jesus, you'll be saved. And I said, I can't call in the name of Jesus because Jesus is not what I believe in. I'll call in the name of Muhammad. So I'll call on Muhammad and then I'll set a door and then wake up again. And then I had the dream three times and I woke and then the third time I was almost going, but the ocean, there was a wind blowing people into the ocean. So when I call in the name of Jesus, immediately the man fell into the ocean and the window was blowing the people into the ocean. He also stopped because there are people as he was calling me, there are people that are going into the deep ocean. So he fell into the ocean. I said OK, well the voice difference saying in the name of Jesus, if you call the name of Jesus, you will, you will be saved, you won't die. Then I said OK, I don't want to die because I saw myself going into closer to the man. I said I don't want to die and I said OK in the name of Jesus. I don't want to die. I don't want to go where these people are going and dying. So immediately the wind stopped. I was blowing the people and the man, he fell into the ocean and the ocean covered it. It was closed and there was a certain peace. Then I knew that there is a God and I knew that there is Jesus. But then it was difficult to do it in a Muslim school. I didn't know how to read the Bible. I knew how to read. But then there are some Christian girls in that school and sometimes you have to come in to you have to change your name to get into the school. And then they would go to church on a Sunday and they would have like choir practice on a Saturday. I envied them. I used to envy them because they would rehearse and they would worship God and they had that thing that I really wanted so bad. So on a Sunday, if I was given pocket money, I'd, I'd give them like I saw something about time. I heard them talking about time. So I'd give them money and I said, give it for me in church and give it to God. And then when I on Saturday, when they're learning songs, I would go and join them because they used to also they would sing and then I would wait with them instead of going on a Saturday. I would have entertainment, movies and stuff. So I wouldn't watch them. I'll go and listen to their songs. I learned some songs with them, but it was difficult because it was Muslim school. So they would say, oh, what's happening to Surya? She's she's, she's lacking the Christian people now. She's becoming a Muslim, a Christian now. So I was called into the headmistress's office and she had written a letter from me and said, Oh, you shouldn't become a Christian or else we'll kick you out of the school. But somehow when I, when she get the letter, she got the letter in the envelope. She she just preached. She just preached me and said, oh, sorry, I don't believe there's Christians. It's just a lie. It's not true. And something happened, she said talking about something. And then she sent me back into the class. But when I went back on the holidays, I told God that if you ever take me somewhere where I can worship you freely and I can serve you, I will testify of what you've done for me in my life. So slowly, somehow, I know I'm here in England not because my parents want me to study by. So when did you? Come to England I. Came in 2001. And then you came to church. Then I came in into church in 2005. Wow, who invited you to church? A friend of mine called Muni, she's in Nigeria now, yes. So I believe that I'm not here to get better life. I was here to learn spiritual things to prepare myself not to not to enjoy per SE, but to to do something for God. So he's been creating. I mean, I'm like a free electron in the system. The amount of things that go on is like I don't have attachments with like. Are you from the South or the north? I'm from the South, from Juba. Juba. Yes, Juba. Juba wow, so I know that. One day we'll have a crusade in Juba. Amen, Bishop. Wow. Thank you. Thank you, Bishop. Wow. Sudan. You see now she's from Juba. Did you know Juba? Yeah. There's a place called Juba with people. We should send a seat to Juba. Is it a good place to send? It's a good place to do well. Yeah. I would like to do my work. I would like to finish what I started. What do you think? How many would like to help me to finish what we started? Look, we can't leave even 1 country out, we can't blacklist some countries as if this is too scary sounding. A soul is a soul and it's precious to God. Amen. What do you think? Is it powerful? Who is going to go to chat? Raise your hand if you go to chat. One girl, stand up. Let me see your face. Yeah, a girl is standing up. Chad. Wow. What's your name? 03 girls, 4 girls. All of you going to go to Chad anywhere? Wow. Look at the scaredy cat boys all around here. Look at the scaredy cat boys. OK, boys are afraid of Chad. Yeah. Wow. OK, Sit down. Who's gonna go to where? Have we left out? Equatorial Guinea to speak Spanish? Stand up. Let's see. You've been assigned. Who assigned you? They gave you some. What countries? Yeah, OK, Yes, your name is what? Dennis and And your name is what? This message continues on the next track. Keep listening.