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14. The TV And Radio Ministry

Bishop Dag Heward-Mills
January 9, 2025 47m 22s

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Camp Title - Lay Power. Machaneh Collection - 60. Preached in 2009, Ghana (Bonsu). Bishop Dag Heward-Mills is a world-renowned evangelist, bestselling Christian author with over 100 books, and leader of the United Denominations, present in 100+ countries. Through his Healing Jesus Campaigns, thousands have been healed, and millions saved across Africa and beyond. As you follow this podcast, may you begin to know God in a way you have never before! Don’t forget to click the follow button and turn on notifications.

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Welcome to track #14 of lay power. PBCI. We are moving into other areas. Radio. Television, buses and evangelism. Amen. So Radio Ministry number one, recognize the advantage and blessing. Of a radio. Ministry, Amen. You can reach people on radio that you will not reach in any other way. Amen. Amen #2 oh why #2 design the theme of your radio ministry. We have to design the theme and build around it. Amen #3 conduct the radio ministry as well as some people. Say cost effectively. Is it a correct word? Cost effective. What's that cost effective? What's the other word for that? Profitable economic Good economy class #4 Visualize one person listening on the radio and speak to the person #5 Offer something. On your radio. Ministry. Amen. We must. Offer books, CDs. Number six too fast #1 is what recognize the advantage and blessing of a Lycos radio ministry. Amen #2 Design the theme of your radio ministry and build around it #3. As economically as possible. We have to conduct. This radio ministry as. Economically as. We cannot build a room and put 30 people there to. Be answering phone calls and pay everybody then our new. Problem will

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Welcome to track #14 of lay power. PBCI. We are moving into other areas. Radio. Television, buses and evangelism. Amen. So Radio Ministry number one, recognize the advantage and blessing. Of a radio. Ministry, Amen. You can reach people on radio that you will not reach in any other way. Amen. Amen #2 oh why #2 design the theme of your radio ministry. We have to design the theme and build around it. Amen #3 conduct the radio ministry as well as some people. Say cost effectively. Is it a correct word? Cost effective. What's that cost effective? What's the other word for that? Profitable economic Good economy class #4 Visualize one person listening on the radio and speak to the person #5 Offer something. On your radio. Ministry. Amen. We must. Offer books, CDs. Number six too fast #1 is what recognize the advantage and blessing of a Lycos radio ministry. Amen #2 Design the theme of your radio ministry and build around it #3. As economically as possible. We have to conduct. This radio ministry as. Economically as. We cannot build a room and put 30 people there to. Be answering phone calls and pay everybody then our new. Problem will become financial. Problem #4 Visualize. One person listening and speak to him #5 Offer something on every radio program. Number six, invite people at every radio program. Invite people. Amen #7 Have the radio program daily if you can afford it. Amen. To build listener loyalty number what 9? Number. 8 Pray for people. On the radio #9 keep the promises that you make on the. Radio, if you say I'll be. Back tomorrow, same time, then come back, you understand? If you say anybody who calls for this, I will give you that when they. Call, you must give it. #10 ask for support, ask for money. Amen. Have you got 10 things there now the next one lay people and the. Radio or. And the TV ministry? This one is for both TV and radio #1 Lycos can be involved in what I'm telling you is now what 7 things Lycos must know about radio and TV ministry Amen. Lycos involvement 7 ways lycos can be involved in the TV and radio ministry Amen. Are you there seven ways Lycos can be involved in the radio and television ministry when we go on? TV Africa G. TV, TV3, any of the TV stations. Seven ways you can be involved #1 Lay people can be involved in technical production, Amen photography, camera work, voice recording. A lot of us can be involved and we are asking. You, the common man. The. Regular person, the average. Person to become. Involved please #2 lay people can be involved in. The production of the Ministry of the Word, The ministry of the Word. You see, we have the. Production. The technically produced. Things that you use. Computers and so on. But then we have another thing. The production of the Ministry of the Web. That means that. Some of us as. Lay people can be involved in the television production. You see how Bishop? Saki has been inviting people after I. Preach on the TV. Then he. Comes on to. Invite. There are some people you are even better than he is. At doing that. Remember NPP. NDC. Adverts, did you? Ever see ET Mensa doing an advert for? NDC, even though he's. One of the main people. Did you ever see? Professor Mills himself coming. To say. I don't know whether he did anything, you know, but the. People that were inviting. I mean, they were. I remember they brought some. 7 girls. Hi, my name is Joyce and I'm going to vote for Professor Evans Atta Mills. Because I think he's great. Then another one come hi, my name is Roslyn. I'm going to vote for Professor Ivan's Arta Mills. Because he's honest. Another one. Can't really remember that advert. Hi my name is. Caroline, I'm going to vote for Professor Arta Mills because. I think. He's the best man for Ghana. Hi my name is. Josephine, I'm going. To vote for Professor Arta Mills because I think he will give us a better Ghana. All seven of them. We were all watching, canyons were enchanted and before we realized Professor Mills. Was the president. He has been voted for people. Who? Probably in terms. Of politics, those girls. They are like us. They are common. People, they are commonness. They are not any major politicians if I don't think they are even politicians and some. Of them may not. Even have voted for NDC, but you see they were involved in the production of the web. What was said? They also came in there. So the. Technical guy who? Produced the TV. Program, but then the. Person who talks, you see? Yeah. Do you remember they did some adverts and they showed some? Fittest you know. During the second round. The. MPP had some adverts. Did you vote? No, this time we must go and vote. All of us must go and vote. Then we all. Go and vote. You remember? Yeah. There's a common. People that were used to make those adverts, is it not true, it is true or it is not true? Yeah. And then they shouldn't advert. And then they shouldn't. Advert with a snake. And then somebody asked, Mommy, what is that? That is doing like this. What is that thing that. Is doing this. It's a it's a snake. Is it not dangerous? It's very dangerous. Anything that does like this, it's. Very dangerous. Anything that does this? Is very dangerous, especially when when they are two. It's even more dangerous when they are two. Common people. Were used to make these adverts. Oh. Hey money, what is? That on television, like those people. Oh, and they said because this was we. Are moving. Forward we are. Moving forward. The thing that does like this, it's very dangerous, especially when they are two. And and you ask yourself, is this a deep political message? No, but it's deep enough because the average. Person is a common. Person it does something. That is going like this and when there are two of them, very dangerous. So you see, we remember the adverts. And that's Ghana. Politics has changed. And. People are watching television. And that's why we are saying that even though. Originally the ministry. Work was just prayer. Visitation Council interaction it has now. Moved into radio, television, bus evangelism. Are you listening to me? Yeah. And chalet. Lycos people are. Going to be involved? In the production of the ministry. There are some. Of you, You are beautiful girls. If you come on television and you say hi, I'm sure you were blessed. And I mean talking. Naturally not like. This miss. LAX and other miss whatever, but talk natural. People will come. To the church. Because of you. There was a beautiful. Girl that. Came on the the way she spoke to me and then the voice was very soft. I've come to the church. Why is she anyway? Is she, is she around? She has travelled, she has travelled, she has travelled Irene. You could do some of those things. Yeah, you could. Do some of those things, yeah. Yeah, we, we. We are going. To make so many. Films in the Church. And we want you the like 'cause you hold. Camera. You film, you start. OK, let's do it again. No, it wasn't good for two minutes. One minute at bed. You. Do want to come and shop? It was like we have finished, we have made we. Have made three more look at it and see whether it's good we are. Talking to some people, people that they should come to church, you visualize one person. And we have that tree. Then we look, this was not bad. OK, we have. Got about a. 100 people in a church. This is we are going to do something in the whole church. And all the people. Who shout, clap and say something, do something new. And the common people. Or rise up, look if we have to employ all of you. To come and hold. Mosquito and mouse. What is it called? Computer mouse to be doing. The. Church will become so poor already we are trimming. You know when I'm, when I'm. Having this meeting with the people, they are showing me the bill to sustain the crusade. See where they are going. To Burkina is. About 20,000, Almost $20,000. A month to keep them there and then. When the crusade. Is coming. Goes up to almost. 100,000 I mean it's so expensive that they are doing the calculation as we are. Talking, they are calculating, they are there right now. That's the meeting that I'm having there before I come here. The bills are so if the common. People don't also care. You have somebody has to be here to. Be doing this. Somebody has to answer. The phone call somebody has to make the program. How to even make an? Advert and it's like we are not involved. I mean, we can't. Do it. Another we, don't we. Can't. So the common. Person has to become. Involved in the. Technical production. And then the actual. Things that's like how you. Do a drama now you do the drama in front. Of the screen you. EDIT It's not good. Let's do it like, OK? Change into something Let's. Do 1 and you come with ideas that will be sitting then our common people are bringing. So many ideas and doing. You yourself are becoming stuff. You may even see you'll be on television. You see that you have got a job, so that person, somebody from South Africa. SABC will see you on television and say no. That's accommodative 1 and how do you? Think they they? Today he's on BBC reading whatever, giving news and reporting. Not just here. Radio Joy FM, they say. OK. Come and do this. What was what did he start? Doing no weather. Report He started with weather report and then after that he went to traffic there's traffic at circle don't come to circle don't pass here pass here OK reporting from Kaneshi overpass there's that's how he started today is our BBC where one person will. Recognize one person. One person will recognize. You. I spoke to a certain guy. He was living in Takradi. Then he moved to. Accra, he said that somebody came to Takradi and had him. On a station and said oh. This is the material for Accra. It's not a material for. Attack where they they. Speak fancy. I mean, they don't. They're just speaking fancy over there this time. Material for crying. Brought him I visited him in his house. He. Has been transferred, not transferred. A person has. Employed, they just heard him once, so I see a lot of things. That's why I said that. The ministry you you don't have to. Do with the mind I'm doing so that somebody. Who see? Me and I'll become the second. No, you must. Do it with your mind that I'm just loving the. Lord. But I tell you, when you people get involved, we will be sitting back and we watching the television and say these are. Our people performing. You make the church. Look so nice. Yeah. So we are, we are going. To create. For you, Lycos TV. Ministry and the Lycos Radio. Talking, you have to talk, you have to parlay on the radio and tell the people Charlie. So if you are looking for a church, it's not that we are. Saying anything that we don't know. Practically, you must be here tomorrow. Thursday 7:00 Come. To the Kodesh if you don't know Kodesh. Come to Swan Lake when you reach Swan Lake, ask for kodesh if you don't know Swan Lake, come to Malcolm and I will be standing there 7:00 PM sharp my. Name is John my. My color is fair when? You can ask for John. You'll see me there. You see that people will come, I tell. You they will. Come and look for you and voice on the radio and. Voice on the television. Oh, what are you talking about? Today, everybody is. Looking at. Screen screen the. Whole world is looking at screen. All. Activities Ministry preaching information is coming through a screen screen, screen screen. Everybody has become like this. Keyboard have a screen, I have a screen. Telephone. I have a screen, I have maps, anything I need on my phone. Internet, everything's on the phone. Screen. Everybody's glued to the screen. Everything's happening through a screen. Something's happening the way we know it from a screen. So if. We have not become screen. Ministers, then we are joking in this world, so ministry production #3 let. People are going. To be involved in response management. Response. Management involves the managing. Of the responses that. Come sometimes we have 500 calls and sometimes some of the full time. Pastors turn off their phones because they are. Tired. Others turn it off. Out of other. Reasons, but you just switch off and that's it. I cannot. Receive your call again. I cannot receive it or I divert it. But the reason why? Somebody may divert or. Just switch off the phone is. The volume and the. Calls so many. That in the end, you cannot do anything with your life. People are calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling. We want how many are ready to. Be part of the. Call center Lycos call. Center. Will be sitting there. Hello. Yes, this is Shepherd John. Yes, your problem is what? What? Listen, let me transfer. You to the senior Bishop. The problem that they. Mentioned that came to. My head was too. High, so I transferred it. How many are interested in being part of the respondees? #3. #4 live play. People can be involved. In the follow. Up of respondees follow. Up like if somebody. Calls or somebody comes to our from our TV program or our radio program and the person comes then you. Have to follow up. Yeah, you know, last week you called. That's why I'm calling back. Oh, I'm so touched. So last week I came to check. Yes, that's why. That's why I'm calling. Thank you for coming, you know, next week. Is going to be even wider than. Last week. And I really feel you should be there, so I want. To just. Where are you staying? Listen, follow up. Of respondees Amen number. What? 5 Integration of respondees. Lay people are going to be involved in the. Integration of respondees. Into the church. Integration now when a respondee comes. You get it. And comes again and. Again, we now need some people. Who are going to ensure? That this respondee has joined what Genesis? Chapel or he has. Joined what, Ezekiel? Chapel or he has. Joined What? Ashes Ministry? Or he has joined what? Joshua Chapel, or he's in the White Church. You get it. So there's the integration. First of all, you. Manage the responses. Then you follow up the. Responses. Then you integrate the responses into the church, the respondees into the system. Are you listening to me? They are all different. Projects integrating the respondees into the church. Amen. Are you hungry? Are you? Tired. You have energy. You want more? OK. Number six, let people. Are going to be involved. In the selling of books and products. To people delivering. Products we. Are going to. Get about 17 motorcycles. For you to take motorcycles, CDs, DVDs. To people who want it, then you write from. The kodesh to your house to the traffic. And from the Kodesh. Here is the book that you ordered, the message that you. Requested is here. Wow, is it powerful. Yeah, yeah, people. Who want? To donate to the church, to the ministry, you go and collect it. With the motorcycle, yes. And bring it. Don't pass somewhere with it. Selling of books, CDs. As a Lycos who? Can you imagine? You know, my books are being sold in Russia. One day I was asking in Ukraine. I was asking the person who was selling the books translating. That he said there's Christian books here. There's not much profit. You see, the reality is that Christian. Books people will buy. But there's not much. Profit. So if everybody who sells books is employed, you have to deduct the person. 'S salary pay the. Rent of the shop, pay the electricity, pay the staff, check this, computer this, there's nothing left. So we need more lay people. And what has been happening is rather that the lay people have been coming to the shop to steal the things. Is there anybody here who has? Stolen something from the bookshop before Raise your hand. You have stolen something from the bookshop before. Raise your hand. So that you'll be forgiven. Tonight is over. Raise your hand. You will raise. Should I say something about your hand? You will raise. OK, all I have to say is. Kalama Apaloma Shambhalaba. I didn't say to. Number 7 and the last. Laypeople. Amen must be involved Amen in the production. Of program updates, program modifications, and program. Improvements. Amen. Program Improvements Radio. Modification we must. Modify the programs that we've made. Amen. We must modify the programs that we've made. Is that also? We must. Also do what? Upgrade the. Programs that we've made. Amen. And we must improve the programs that we've made. Hallelujah. Amen. Are you excited about that? Amen. Now. I believe that these are very. Powerful ways by which we can be involved, you see. And and many. People are going to say, oh. I don't have time for this. I'm busy at my workplace. That's what you have said in your heart. There is no benefit in serving God. Yes, it's a deep thing and anything. You do you want money, Money otherwise. You won't do if they don't give you something you won't do. I'm a boy. I mean. It's like a doctor, you know, A doctor. You may come to a doctor. You may see me outside on the another tree. You may ask me something. I may tell you something that will even save your life. When I see that you've taken the right medicine, I will not come. After you and say. Bring my consultation fee. Am I charging for every medical I mean? Advice. Advice part. Of what the doctor gives you is the. Advice or even the? Direction. Do I follow you to charge you if God has? Given you something. Are there not? Occasions that you can use that talent and that ability to bless the work of God without a charge. You have to charge for everything. Everything. You can, you are. Very good in IT, very good in computers. You have to put a charge on all that you do. Did I follow you to say ping? Ping? I told. You to do this. So bring, bring money. 40 CDs. Consultation with 4040. No. We can't do that. If you have to, you are a lawyer. You have to write somebody's will. For him is there every. Will you? Are going to charge. One day I was talking to the. Mason, who was working, but I told him don't charge for this project. I told him it's not every project we charge for. There are some projects you don't. You don't have to charge some of the people that work for me. They don't know. Some of them that if I was not there I told them. Pray. That I'll be alive. Because the job you are doing since 1992, you have never been out of a job as a Carpenter. Pray for me to live. Because since 1992, since you started to work, I've never been out of a job. As if. You have a. Steady employment because we are always building the church. And Masons. You have never had. And sad people sometimes, you see. That they'll come and do something for you and they. They they have a charge. They have even the audacity to charge. They cannot even. Recognize a place where. We don't. Charge. It's not. Everywhere where you you. Put the charge. Some things you see. That even the person can pay 100 times, but if you charge, there's something wrong with it. Because you had a small window to say thank you. You had a small chance to say thank you. Yeah. Because me, I don't. Collect anything from all the workers, the one who says. He gives me bribe so I give him call. He should come. We don't have. Any percentage. And the people that work with me, we don't have percentage, we don't have cats, we don't have kickback, we don't have inflicted. Figures so that we. We rake in the balance from another side. We don't have contractors coming to put sand at our site and stones. At our site I'll. Put 20 trips there for you. Thank you for this. Contract Where shall I? Where shall. I put the sand. Where shall I? Put your sand. And your stones. On your site. Oh, you double the price? You found this out one trip IS300 that is 1. 40 So you're writing the invoice, so. Lighthouse Chapel Buy. 20 trips, one is 300, that is 140. So that after I say, where shall I put your your own? You form your own. I form my own company to supply sand so that all the contracts from Lighthouse go to my company. My company is called. El Faro, El Faro. Limited. Do you know El Faro it means? Lighthouse in Spanish Lighthouse. Limited El Faro. Limited you think that? Is a Spanish consortium. Kruger Limited. And you have got a chance. To repair my door. My door in my. Room where? Where the lock and you are. You are coming to charge me. For repairing the key, you brought a bill to me. Since 1990. Two, you didn't. Have any? I've never. Looked for a job. You cannot even do the work. And you have got. A chance to repair the. Key to my my. Room or the door? To my toilet and you are bringing it an invoice. Bring so that I pay. My friend. It's not everything. You charge for many of you. You can use your IT abilities, computer skills, your acting skills, your. Charm. Your beauty, your talking, the credits on your phone so that you can use it for the work of God without making a charge to God. So the church is rich. The church is rich. Your wicked mind that thinks of the church as a rich, mighty monster. From which you must. Milk something. That wicked mind. Is the same. Wicked mind that many. Politicians have had about. Ghana that Ghana has money, we must all take some and that's why there's nothing left. Very soon we are going to do photo exhibition so that you. See, and I know many of us, we don't even care when we show you. All the churches we are building all over that our Father you never go to. It doesn't matter. Because to you, those people, they are ghosts. No one should. Even go there. But that's not how I think. To me the. People that are there, they deserve also. To have the children, not only a kodesh. Charlie if I wanted. The kodesh to be very well. Anchored by now that air. Conditioned the. Actual Jesus Cathedral. You will see the units. Outside hefty air conditioner. From the far. E Big Big. One with capacity. You see the hopeless glass all? Over would have put. Glass all around and you see air conditioned and air conditioned. Check with carpets, carpet that are coming. When we are walking, you see red carpet. So when your leg goes inside it's like grass. Carpet that is like grass. Say we have money. If we have money, why? Is the capital state black? It's supposed to be red, but it has become black. There was no money. To change it. We have no money to change. It so we haven't changed it. Yeah, I think we are we. Didn't have money that's. Why we didn't change it? And we are hoping for money to. Change it, are you? Listening to me. Small ability that you have. You are a lawyer. You are doing small work. For us, we are. Bringing bills isn't. One opportunity. To do something for. God, you are bringing bills, Mr. I'm a doctor and I may tell you something that would say, girl, I may even. Tell you to check your. Blood pressure God bless you pressure that you didn't you if you are not checking by next week Friday you would have had a stroke you'll. Be like that. I saved you from that. Thing I didn't even ask you for one CD. You have come with small legal work that. You can do no. Charlie, pay, pay, pay. It's a church, you. Have money, you have money. Pay light house Light house they have money Light house they. Have money light house. They have money. Math like a lizard is your math. Like a lizard. Are you the one? Then what is your? Problem. What's your problem? Ask your neighbor is there any? Is there any? Problem in the church. Is there any problem? Somewhere. Small piano that you play, You want money, you want money. I'll call. Some people just have to come. And play you'll. Be surprised me myself I can play. If you provoke me, I'll play. We'll play all and you see, practically, practically you. See us playing, you see. You see, and I'll play. Because I used to play. I used to play. This thing I used. To play, I played piano, the whole church. Only me. I'll play I. Played in Achimata school, him whatever Sunday morning service I played. I'm the I'm the organist. You think I don't? Know how to play? I played the Camero all those on the day they were composed. I was there when they take up your cross the first day that the composer. Came with the song. And say I've got. A new song. This is the baseline. Somebody played this. That's why he. Composed and sang. We all like the. First day that he. Brought the composition from his house. I was there. Take up your cross. Follow me. Take. I was there that very day. You play this, you play this, you play this. You play. He played. He played the. Camera and I watched him play. This how to play. Is my new song. Yeah, we have been playing all. These things so. If you are not bringing any bills that when we. Play. Then there's something. Look at those children who we are teaching how to play piano. Are you still teaching them? Yeah. Is it not a privilege? Somebody that is. Myself, who I have. Thought about it that. Our children should be taught how to play these things. It's an asset. Somebody has thought about it too. We have bought the keyboard so that the children. Will come, they will learn. How to play this, this done, whatever. They grow up. Is it not a gift are you coming to now recharging people if one day by the grace of God, that gift. Is even able to. Give you a job somewhere, praise God. But in the day that you have to show that gift. And use it. Are you coming to bring your bills? You must be joking. Yes. So, brothers and sisters. This attitude has kept a lot of people back. When we are supposed. To help with radio. Some of you, you see us. Doing things. And you even realize that we are making mistakes. You can do something better than us, but you won't help us. You won't help. And you laugh. At us and so. Lighthouse 5. They were to do this if they were to do this, if we were to do this, why? Don't you come and help us. We want you to help us. Can you help our hospital help us? Can you? Help our radio, help us. We are also we are also like us. We are also not trained, we don't know how to do all these things. We are now learning it and we want everybody to join in 500. Calls all the lay. People. I don't know how. Bishop Saki is going to share the work, See. How are you going to share their work to the people who share it? Yeah. Share it. Yeah. Come. Present yourself. It's not something that will. Be calling you and say the full time people are trying to share their work for us. The full time people are trying to share their work instead of working. They want us to work and then we. Also come and play. Tight on Sunday. And then they will eat it once we are look at the cars. That they are driving. We cry. We don't have such cars or mouth like a frog. Please I have. Not mentioned your name once I have not mentioned your name. It is not you. Unless your mouth is. Like a frog. Ask your neighbor is it you are? You, the one who thinks. Like that? Wow. It's been a long day, isn't it? We are going to be ending very soon. We are going to sleep early today. We are coming at 4:00 AM. Tomorrow morning. Yeah. So we are going to be ending. I'm just. Coming to the. When I go to the buses and evangelism and then. We are done for the day. We started early in the morning. Remember, we have you. I have not eaten. Have you eaten? I don't know if I've eaten. You have done. Many have eaten KK. Fish rice. Goat soup fufu Goat head soup The head of the goat is the. Main. Star in the soup. Hey I've. Not seen some before. Featuring the head of the goat with their mouth and their teeth like this. And the tongue. Are you listening to me? How many are enjoying? The idea that you are. Going to become a film star. And a radio presenter. How many are ready to be a radio presenter? As soon as the. Preaching is over then. You come on and you start talking. Yeah, live. Live means you have to come every. Day any any station that we play. Our messages on. Then after you come live. You introduce the message. And say. After I'm sure. You are blessed, anybody. Who wants to whatever call me, my number is. 0273 another 7, three, another 421, and the people will be calling you and you Keep the promises. When you make promises, don't turn your phone off. Don't divert the calls. You keep. Answering we want. More. People to be involved, those of you who are beautiful. And handsome. There are some. TV personalities, they have a nice. Like Pastor Fabian. He has a nice face, nice voice, and then he looks. You know the other people that are chosen to be school prefects. Were you a school preferred? Please. Eddie Fabian. Yeah, I see. I didn't know, I just said. It. There are some people how their faces are. They look correct. These are the people. That we need for TV, and it's correct. Through Christ. And there are some. People who talk nicely, they are not. Irritated, you know, some certain. Way you call what? You say what? Look, talk loudly. I can't hear. A lot of people are calling. Why are you calling now? The program was having six hours ago. I'm tired. Call tomorrow. And those of you who are not good at searching to, you must own up. And when? We say that you are not good for it. Don't be angry. They are only choosing people who went to Wesley Girls. They are only choosing people who went to Achimota. They are only choosing doctors. We know what is in your head. Oh dear. Tomorrow come, tomorrow come. We are going under the CapEx tomorrow tie some places. Are you listening to me, Charlie? I want you to work for. Gordo, I'm trying to. Open the floodgates. I want to put on my television. And see you there. Say hey, look at the girl. And I want to see one that you'll be on BBC. You'll be on Sky. News and. You said this is. Amatrewa reporting from Johannesburg and I will say, look, this is Amatrewa. She started on Lycos. It all began at. Lycos lay power, lay power. Lay power, lay power. What's that? Song that you were. Singing yesterday. None. He loves me, he says. I am his child. He calls. Me righteous. OK, you've lost your chance. Lay people. Amen can do well in the ministry. Amen. Number one, lay people can be involved in what technical production? How lay? People can be involved, isn't it #2 Lay people can be involved in the, in the. Production of the. Ministry of the World. #3 they can be involved in response management number. 4 follow up of respondees calling. Them up, checking on them, finding. Out what is happening? To them Amen #4 #5. The integration of. Respondees into the church number six. CDs and delivering products. To people, Amen and #7 lay people Amen now lay people and the bass ministry. Bass, Amen. Now Bass ministry laypeople #1 Laypeople can be involved in driving the buses. Amen.